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| Message #221 | 2-Jul-2005 09:22 PM -07:00 |
| Author: David | |
| Subject: Levels 13 & 6 (and a little on 46) | |
| jessy, I think joe means that in the starting position there is only one pair of gold trees in which one tree is in the cell directly up from the other one. And he's saying that you have to move the top gold tree into the lower left area where there are three gold trees below and near the Pocoman at the beginning.
Level 6: Try starting with these moves: drddddlDruuuLD Level 46 is one of my favourites. I was stuck for weeks. I got it eventually, but I've forgotten how. This is quite intricate, but the more time you spend on it the more you get to know it and learn what you can and can't do. It's fun because there are lots of approaches you can try and many ways to move tokens around in different areas, back and forth. I don't think many people would get it quickly, so persist with it and experiment for a few weeks at least. |
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| Message #220 | 2-Jul-2005 03:13 PM -07:00 |
| Author: Wendy | |
| Subject: 46 | |
| I'm stuck on that one too! Grrr....I can't even seem to get a start on it! | |
| Message #219 | 2-Jul-2005 12:44 AM -07:00 |
| Author: God | |
| Subject: LEvel 6 | |
| How can i do level 6 its impossible | |
| Message #218 | 1-Jul-2005 02:07 AM -07:00 |
| Author: jessy | |
| Subject: level 13 (& message 68) | |
| hi. i cannot do level 13 & message 68 didn't help! I do not know what joe means by a "grouping of two flowers in which one flower is directly on top of another. It is the top flower which needs be pushed into the lower left section." By 'flowers' does he mean gold trees? Or does he mean in the section of x's where the trees turn into flowers (but where there is only one flower at the start)? | |
| Message #217 | 30-Jun-2005 08:29 PM -07:00 |
| Author: Jo | |
| Subject: Level 46 | |
| Ok now I need help with level 46. Can anyone help me, please? :) | |
| Message #216 | 30-Jun-2005 05:31 PM -07:00 |
| Author: Jo | |
| Subject: Nevermind | |
| I got it. :) | |
| Message #215 | 30-Jun-2005 02:38 AM -07:00 |
| Author: Jo | |
| Subject: Level 41 | |
| Hey everyone, can anybody help me out with level 41 of Pocoman? I can't believe I've gotten this far to get stuck on this one! :) | |
| Message #214 | 27-Jun-2005 04:18 PM -07:00 |
| Author: Wendy | |
| Subject: Thanks! | |
| Thanks David! I can't believe I didn't see that. Made it through :) | |
| Message #213 | 27-Jun-2005 03:57 PM -07:00 |
| Author: NIFFTEA | |
| Subject: Level 18 | |
| Dio, If you got throuh 18, will you please post on here how to do it? Thanks! | |
| Message #212 | 26-Jun-2005 05:51 PM -07:00 |
| Author: David | |
| Subject: Re: Help with level 42 | |
| I don't remember how I did this, but try starting with these moves if you haven't already: rdDLdlluLdrrruruullllD (upper case=push). I haven't followed this all the way through. | |
| Message #211 | 26-Jun-2005 08:21 AM -07:00 |
| Author: Wendy | |
| Subject: Help with level 42 | |
| Ok, I'm finally breaking down and asking for help :)
Can anyone help with at least the start of this level? Thanks! PocoMan Rules! |
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| Message #210 | 20-Jun-2005 11:29 PM -07:00 |
| Author: David | |
| Subject: Re: Level 27 | |
| Elly, to start you push the falcon next to the Pocoman down, then to the right into the bottom section. Then go up into the middle section from the bottom, then up into the top section (to get there you obviously have to push some falcons around). See how you go from there. | |
| Message #209 | 20-Jun-2005 10:45 AM -07:00 |
| Author: Elly | |
| Subject: Level 27 | |
| I am on level 27, and can't seem to get it. Any help? | |
| Message #208 | 17-Jun-2005 09:52 PM -07:00 |
| Author: joe | |
| Subject: Mia, Level 44 | |
| ***Token1***
D,2L,U,13L,D,L,3U, ***Token2*** 2D,14R,D,2R,U,15L,D,L,2U, ***Token3*** D,13R,2U,R,D,R,D,14L,D,L,U, ***Token4*** 14R,4U,L,3D,R,D,13L, ***Token5*** 9R,2D,L,D,R,D,R,D,R,2U,L,D,L,6U,R,U,9L, ***Token6*** 8R,3D,4R,3U,R,2D,L,2D,2R,U,6L,3U,8L,3D,7R,7L,3U,8R,5D,L,D,R, 3U,4R,5U,R,4D,L,2D,2R,U,6L,3U,8L,3D,7R,7L,3U,8R,5D, 3L,D,R,D,R,D,R,D,R,D,2R,U,L,U,L,U,L |
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| Message #207 | 16-Jun-2005 04:23 PM -07:00 |
| Author: David | |
| Subject: Re: Level 44 | |
| From memory you can get 4 candles from the right section to the X's on the far left pretty easily, and then one candle from the bottom section to the X second from left at the top. After that you have to cram the remaining 2 candles in the left section into the bottom section so you can push them up. The difficulty is in finding an arrangement in the bottom section that enables you to cram them in and then get them all out again. | |
| Message #206 | 16-Jun-2005 06:30 AM -07:00 |
| Author: Mia | |
| Subject: Level 44 | |
| Is there anybody who could help me with level 44?
Thanks a lot! |
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| Message #205 | 16-Jun-2005 06:29 AM -07:00 |
| Author: Mia | |
| Subject: Level 44 | |
| Is there anybody who could help me with level 44?
Thanks a lot! |
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| Message #204 | 14-Jun-2005 02:21 PM -07:00 |
| Author: Ciccio | |
| Subject: pocoman completed | |
| I completed all levels. Level 50 it's very easy. Level 49 is more difficult than 50. | |
| Message #203 | 12-Jun-2005 09:13 AM -07:00 |
| Author: Ciccio | |
| Subject: Re: help level 40 | |
| Ok, David, i found solution of level 40 ********* L2U9L 4D LDR3DR3D L2D2RU 5LDL2U D5R4UR2UL R2D2L6U R2U8R7D 2L2R2D2L UD2R9U 8L2DL6DR 2DRU3R UR2U3L DLDURU 3R2DLD 3LUL 3DL2D2RU 5LDLU 5R4UL6UR2UL 7DLD2R D4RUR2U3LDLD URU3R2D LD3LUL3D L2D2RU3L DL2URULD 3R3U RURU 2L2R2U2L DL2DLD2R L3URU2R 3DLD 2U4R2DLD 3LUL3DL 2D2RU5L 4R4UR2U LUL2DLD 2RL2U2R2D 2U4R2DLD 3LUL4DRD 5L4R5U L6UR2UL7D LD2R L2U2R2D 2U4R2DLD 3LUL 3DL2D2RU4L 3R4UR2U 3RULD3L 2U2RD RD3LUL 2DLD2R L2U 2R2D 2U4R2DLD 3LUL4D RD4L 3R5UL8U 3R5DRD 3LUL2D LD2RL 2U2R2D 2U4R2DLD 3LUL3D L2D2RU3L DL2U **********now we have to create a passage to the right from bottom************ 3R3UR2UR 6U6R7D 2L2R2D 2LU D2R 9U2LDR U3LDR 2DR2D3L 3R2UL3U 2RDL U4L5D RD3L UL2DLD2R D4RU2RD 2R7U RUL U6L7DLD UR7U6R 9D2LU2L D3LUL3D *************and now it's easy to put the remaining 7 blocks | |
| Message #202 | 12-Jun-2005 12:41 AM -07:00 |
| Author: David | |
| Subject: Green Machine 28 - right section | |
| This is the solution I mentioned that doesn't use the area in the bottom right to get a hammer out of the way. The solution in the hint book does put an extra hammer down there, and it requires 67 pushes altogether. The solution that follows is 65 pushes. Upper case letters are pushes.
rDDuR Rurrd dddLL LLLrd ddLLr ruuur rrruu uulld lldDu urrur rdddd lllLr rrruu uLDrd dllll dddll ulluu rUUdd lddrr drruu uuuur Rurrd dlDrd LLrru uuulD Dulll ddddd dllul luuru uluur DrRRR Rlldd ddddl lullu uruUl uRRRu rDDDD uuull ldddl ddrUU UUluR RRurD Dulll ddddd rddlU UUUUU luRRR urDll ldddd ddrrr drruL dlUll luuuu uurrr rrurr ddddl lLrrr uulDr dLLrr uuuul DDDrd L |
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| Message #201 | 12-Jun-2005 12:35 AM -07:00 |
| Author: David | |
| Subject: Re: help level 40 | |
| You need to manipulate the 3 sextants at the bottom right so you can get past them. That's the only way to push each sextant on the other side one cell to the left and then to the X cells. I think one of the three has to be pushed up into the middle area, but doing that can make that area too congested if you aren't careful. I think I had to move some sextants around in the middle area before blocking off the entrance at the bottom (with one of the other two sextants at the bottom right so you can get through to the left). | |
| Message #200 | 10-Jun-2005 02:16 PM -07:00 |
| Author: Ciccio | |
| Subject: help level 40 | |
| Hello people i am stuck on level 40 can anyone help me? Thanks in advance! | |
| Message #199 | 31-May-2005 04:09 PM -07:00 |
| Author: David | |
| Subject: Re: Level 28 | |
| I don't know how they are created, but I agree there's a beauty in some of them similar to some chess or mathematics problems. Wait till you get to level 30. The top section of that is a work of art, IMO. Still on the right section of level 28, it is actually possible to do it without moving an additional token into the right-bottom area to get it out of the way. I didn't do it that way, but I have a solution in which the token at the bottom right (your N5) is not moved at all until the very end, when it is pushed left and up to complete the puzzle. This solution also has fewer pushes in total. So those who have done this level might consider it a challenge to solve it without moving N5 to the right, and I'll post the solution in a few weeks. | |
| Message #198 | 31-May-2005 03:11 PM -07:00 |
| Author: Bobby | |
| Subject: Level 28. | |
| David:
Thanks a lot!!! I got it. Even I cheated (used your help) I still admire the beauty of the solution! I wonder how they create the puzzle lay out. There must be some rules in place to make the lay out solvable - I hope. In that case the generation of a lay out could be automated (create an algorithm). I was wondering if there is much interest behind that idea. If we create a freeware then we could have indefinite number of layers...? Does anybody know any of these rules? Bobby Z. |
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| Message #197 | 28-May-2005 10:11 PM -07:00 |
| Author: David | |
| Subject: Re: Level 28 | |
| Correction: M12 should be N11 for move T2R2. | |
| Message #196 | 28-May-2005 10:01 PM -07:00 |
| Author: David | |
| Subject: Re: Level 28 | |
| I've found the moves I wrote down for this level and I took roughly the same approach as you. Do the same moves except try M8 instead of L8. You can get M9 to N5 but you have to do a few other things first.
I'll explain the notation I use. I record only the pushes, not the moves. Choose the most convenient side to identify the token to be pushed : Left, Top Right or Bottom. Then count the tokens from that side to the one to be pushed. If Top or Bottom, count the tokens left to right, one row at a time. If Left or Right, count top to bottom one column at a time. Then record all pushes in succession for that token. For example, here are my pushes for level 28 up to the point you are at: T2D (2nd token from left at the top, which is your M11, push down once). T2R2 (2nd token from left at the top, which is your M12, push right twice. Note that T2 is now a different token because T2 last time has moved down). R3L4 (your P8, push left 4 times). B2R2 (your N5, push right twice). B1L2 (your L5, push left twice). This is where you are at, with slight differences, so I won't go further, but one of my moves later in this level is L1U4R6D3L2 (push left-most token up 4, right 6 etc.). This notation can be tricky because you can't tell what any move means without knowing the positions of all the tokens at that point, but it's very compact and it's quick to write and read because you only have to count a few tokens instead of every row and column from a single reference point, which is sometimes far away. |
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| Message #195 | 27-May-2005 02:26 PM -07:00 |
| Author: Bobbyz | |
| Subject: Level 28 | |
| David:
Thank you for answering my e-mail. I completely agree with you on the GM. I concentrate on the right part of the puzzle (level 28). Looks I do the only possible moves but they lead to dead end. My anotation is from lower left corner - in X are the letters and in Y are the #s. I include the walls too. So my moves are as follow: L12-M12, M12-M10, M10-O11, O11-L8, L8-K5, K5-O5 And here I am stuck because the "!" sign from M9 is supposed to go to N5 and there is no way to do that. Please help. I am really amazed how they designed that game - I am really addicted. I want to solve it - but that is what makes it beautiful. Thank you. Bobbyz |
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| Message #194 | 27-May-2005 02:49 AM -07:00 |
| Author: David | |
| Subject: Re: GM level 28 | |
| There are two independent sections to this level and both are tough. The left requires 30 pushes minimum to solve and the right requires 65. Which side are you stuck on? ***
BTW, I usually had to write down my moves for the GM levels that are two or more levels in one, because after you've finally got one section solved it's very unlikely that you'll get the others at the first attempt, so if you don't remember or didn't record how you did each section you have to figure them out all over again. It makes them much harder, but not in a way that I like. It's a pain having to write everything down, even if you devise a shorthand method of recording only the pushes so they can be repeated quickly. I think I'd enjoy these levels more if they were split into separate levels. They would just as hard to solve, but you wouldn't need a lot of tedious, unsatisfying work and repetition. |
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| Message #193 | 26-May-2005 05:17 PM -07:00 |
| Author: Bobbyz | |
| Subject: Stuck on level 28 of the Green Machine. | |
| Any advice how to fix this level?
I am stuck for days here. Thanks. |
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| Message #192 | 25-May-2005 09:34 AM -07:00 |
| Author: Jody | |
| Subject: re: level 45 | |
| thank you very much David | |